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Do we as humans ALWAYS have to demonize other people groups?

Posted by Chris Taylor on August 6, 2009

Are we genetically predetermined to demonize other people groups, who believe differently than we do?

Are we somehow hard wired to “hate” others?  To mock them?  To ridicule them?

WE are the human race – WE are in this together.  Blacks, Whites, Asians, Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Intelligent and Ignorant.  WE are no better than our neighbor.  WE are no worse than our neighbor.

One man kills another.  One man rapes a woman.  A woman murders another and cuts out her fetus.   A man robs a store and kills 3 people – motive unknown.  A man shoots up a fitness club – motive loneliness.

If circumstances had been different, if things had gone a different way, perhaps we might have been that person.  Many small things add up to the whole of who we become.

People demonize people of religion.  Religious people demonize non-religious people.  IT SUCKS.

All the while, the “demon-izers” claim to be “better” than the “demons”.

That man who shot up the fitness club in PA made a diary entry and in this diary entry he talked about God.

The intellectual heavy weights (specifically *some of* the commentators) over at Pharyngula (who espouse scientific method as one of the highest principles of living) choose to make a case of this as “religion is bad”.  GIVE ME A BREAK.

Pharyngula: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/08/another_mass_murder.php

NOW, to be fair, many Christians are just as bad.  Two sides of the same freaking coin and they don’t even know it.

Well, I was going to post a link to a Christian blog abusing Atheists, but they seem to be harder to find. (I know they exist, but they don’t seem to be as prolific as the anti-Christian/anti-Religion blogs – if you would like to submit one, I’ll update this post with the appropriate entry). ** UPDATE: What I really need is a Christian blog post where the commenters (?) / commentators are bashing atheism/atheists as ignorant, evil, despicable people as PZ’s blog post itself doesn’t do that – that is found in the comments.

Here some purported Christian blogs that would be representative of the “bad side” of Christianity (the other side of the coin) (DISCLAIMER: I have my doubts these are truly Christian bloggers and may be pretenders much like “Angry Xtian” was but to be fair, I’ll include them)

Atheistwatch
Atheist-Fools

I SINCERELY HOPE that neither group is truly representative of their groups as a whole.  God helps us if they are.

Chris

(I’ve made some corrections to this post as it was pointed out to me that my post lumped all of the people at Pharyngula into the same “boat” so to speak)

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Conscious of my ignorance…

Posted by Chris Taylor on July 13, 2009

From: http://www.templeton.org/belief/
William D. Phillips, a Nobel Laureate in physics, is a fellow of the Joint Quantum Institute of the University of Maryland and the National Institute of Standards and Technology.

The Question: Does science make belief in God obsolete?

An Answer:

“Now that we have scientific explanations for the natural phenomena that mystified our ancestors, many scientists and non-scientists believe that we no longer need to appeal to a supernatural God for explanations of anything, thereby making God obsolete. As for people of faith, many of them believe that science, by offering such explanations, opposes their understanding that the universe is the loving and purposeful creation of God. Because science denies this fundamental belief, they conclude that science is mistaken. These very different points of view share a common conviction: that science and religion are irreconcilable enemies. They are not.

I am a physicist. I do mainstream research; I publish in peer-reviewed journals; I present my research at professional meetings; I train students and postdoctoral researchers; I try to learn from nature how nature works. In other words, I am an ordinary scientist. I am also a person of religious faith. I attend church; I sing in the gospel choir; I go to Sunday school; I pray regularly; I try to “do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with my God.” In other words, I am an ordinary person of faith. To many people, this makes me a contradiction – a serious scientist who seriously believes in God. But to many more people, I am someone just like them. While most of the media’s attention goes to the strident atheists who claim that religion is foolish superstition, and to the equally clamorous religious creationists who deny the clear evidence for cosmic and biological evolution, a majority of the people I know have no difficulty accepting scientific knowledge and holding to religious faith.

As an experimental physicist, I require hard evidence, reproducible experiments, and rigorous logic to support any scientific hypothesis. How can such a person base belief on faith? In fact there are two questions: “How can I believe in God?” and “Why do I believe in God?”

On the first question: a scientist can believe in God because such belief is not a scientific matter. Scientific statements must be “falsifiable.” That is, there must be some outcome that at least in principle could show that the statement is false. I might say, “Einstein’s theory of relativity correctly describes the behavior of visible objects in our solar system.” So far, extremely careful measurements have failed to prove that statement false, but they could (and some people have invested careers in trying to see if they will). By contrast, religious statements are not necessarily falsifiable. I might say, “God loves us and wants us to love one another.” I cannot think of anything that could prove that statement false. Some might argue that if I were more explicit about what I mean by God and the other concepts in my statement, it would become falsifiable. But such an argument misses the point. It is an attempt to turn a religious statement into a scientific one. There is no requirement that every statement be a scientific statement. Nor are non-scientific statements worthless or irrational simply because they are not scientific. “She sings beautifully.” “He is a good man.” “I love you.” These are all non-scientific statements that can be of great value. Science is not the only useful way of looking at life.

What about the second question: why do I believe in God? As a physicist, I look at nature from a particular perspective. I see an orderly, beautiful universe in which nearly all physical phenomena can be understood from a few simple mathematical equations. I see a universe that, had it been constructed slightly differently, would never have given birth to stars and planets, let alone bacteria and people. And there is no good scientific reason for why the universe should not have been different. Many good scientists have concluded from these observations that an intelligent God must have chosen to create the universe with such beautiful, simple, and life-giving properties. Many other equally good scientists are nevertheless atheists. Both conclusions are positions of faith. Recently, the philosopher and long-time atheist Anthony Flew changed his mind and decided that, based on such evidence, he should believe in God. I find these arguments suggestive and supportive of belief in God, but not conclusive. I believe in God because I can feel God’s presence in my life, because I can see the evidence of God’s goodness in the world, because I believe in Love and because I believe that God is Love.

Does this belief make me a better person or a better physicist than others? Hardly. I know plenty of atheists who are both better people and better scientists than I. I do think that this belief makes me better than I would be if I did not believe. Am I free of doubts about God? Hardly. Questions about the presence of evil in the world, the suffering of innocent children, the variety of religious thought, and other imponderables often leave me wondering if I have it right, and always leave me conscious of my ignorance. Nevertheless, I do believe, more because of science than in spite of it, but ultimately just because I believe. As the author of Hebrews put it: “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

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Is Atheism a Belief System?

Posted by Chris Taylor on June 15, 2009

Definitions:

belief: noun

- the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true
source: Cambridge Dictionary of American English

- a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing
- something believed  ; especially : a tenet or body of tenets held by a group
- conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence
Source: Merriam-Webster Online

believe: verb

- to think that something is true or correct
source: Cambridge Dictionary of American English

intransitive verb 1 a: to have a firm religious faith b: to accept as true, genuine, or real 2: to have a firm conviction as to the goodness, efficacy, or ability of something 3: to hold an opinion : think

transitive verb1 a: to consider to be true or honest b: to accept the word or evidence of 2: to hold as an opinion : suppose
source: Merriam-Webster Online

faith:  noun

a high degree of trust or confidence in something or someone source: Cambridge Dictionary of American English

1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b  (1): fidelity to one’s promises  (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a  (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God  (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b  (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof  (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction  ; especially : a system of religious beliefs
source: Merriam-Webster Online

Update 6/16/2009 – I realized I didn’t define “Belief System”

Belief System: noun

faith based on a series of beliefs but not formalized into a religion; also, a fixed coherent set of beliefs prevalent in a community or society source: Dictionary.Com

1. a set of beliefs, especially religious or political beliefs, that form a unified system 2. organized societal beliefs: a collection and organization of beliefs prevalent in a community or society source: Encarta

Summary of Belief/Believe/Faith:

A personal conviction of the truth/correctness of an idea, ideal, or opinion especially when based on the examination of evidence.  Groups of people are often marked by sharing the same body of beliefs [tenets].

Do Christians believe there is a God? Yes.

Do Atheists believe there is no God? Yes.

Can either prove [scientifically] that God/gods exist? No.

Are both Christianity (Religion) and Atheism belief systems?  Yes.

Arguments:

I don’t believe in god. I’m an Atheist.  It’s called ‘disbelief’.  I choose to ‘disbelieve’.

Response:

To disbelieve one thing, is to believe another.   You substitute something you can believe in for something you cannot believe in.

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Question: Why is faith in God Bad?

Posted by Chris Taylor on January 18, 2009

I posed this question on a board that I am a member of and wanted to copy a reply I received there and my reply.  The words in bold are the original reply and my reply to it.

I’m hoping that it will move on here and remain easier to follow.

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Christians should be weak and abused because of their weakness

Posted by Chris Taylor on May 8, 2008

In a recent blog conversation someone made the following comment to me:

The belief in the Christian god tells oneself that being meek, weak, and abused in this world out of weakness will be rewarded in your afterlife.

So being meek, weak, and abused in this world out of weakness will be rewarded in my afterlife?

He associates being meek with being weak and abused out of weakness. Should Christians be weak? Does meek mean weak as we understand it today? Does humble mean weak?

I want to hear from you.

My questions to you reading this:

IS THIS THE PERCEPTION OF CHRISTIANITY, (CHRIST) ONE OF WEAKNESS AND ABUSED PEOPLE?

SHOULD IT BE IF IT IS (OR IS NOT)?

Read on…

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